ASK OUR LAWYER
BY ROD TAYLOR
April 2001
Q: I am an ABATE Member. I am planning a solo,
several state ride this summer. I have a State of Indiana permit
to carry a concealed firearm. I have searched the NRA's web site
regarding the carriage of firearms (concealed) into other states.
My question: Do my rights and privileges granted me by Indiana
extend into other states?
I've re-read sections of the US Constitution regarding
the Interstate Commerce clause. I am vaguely remembering something
about the one's rights and privileges being granted and reciprocity
accepted by other states. Does this hold true to the carriage of
firearms? If not, to whom do I write to be granted that privilege?
The Secretary of State of each state or to the Attorney General
of each state?
A: This month's question comes from
a reader. As you can see, this is a question that a number of our
members may face, so this column is a good place for responding.
The simple answer to your question is no, an Indiana
carry permit does not grant a right to carry (or even possess) a
weapon in other jurisdictions. Under our federalist arraignment
of government, each state has the authority and ability to enact
and enforce laws within its own borders, providing that those laws
do not violate constitutional limits. Each state is a sovereign
entity, and can enact restrictions and regulations for those within
its borders. This would include the regulation of the use and carriage
of firearms (again, subject to the constitutional limits on government
actions).
The upshot is that gun laws are a patchwork quilt
of requirements, with each state treating the ownership, registration,
and carriage of firearms differently. While some other states offer
concealed carry permits, a person wishing to carry in that state
would have to apply for and receive the proper permit in that state
before being able to legally carry their weapon.
The question also touches on two separate but related
concepts: the Full Faith and Credit and the Interstate Commerce
clauses of the Constitution. The Full Faith and Credit Clause in
Article IV of the U.S. Constitution requires states to give full
faith and credit to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings
of the other states. The Interstate Commerce Clause is the clause
in Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution that empowers Congress
to regulate interstate commerce and restricts states from enacting
laws that restrict interstate commerce. Neither of these provisions
address the concerns here.
First of all, the Full Faith and Credit clause deals primarily with
the judicial acts of a state. The judgments and public acts of the
courts of a state are to be given full faith and credit in other
states. The principle does not extend to acts of the legislature.
No legislature can enact laws that reach beyond its borders. The
carry permit you have allows you to carry in the State of Indiana,
not beyond. The extent of the application of the Full Faith and
Credit clause on a sister state would be to honor the permit given
to carry in Indiana. If, for example, a question came up in an Illinois
case about someone carrying a weapon in Indiana, the Illinois court
would be compelled to recognize the Indiana law upon which the carry
permit was issued. It would not, however, allow an Indiana citizen
to carry in Illinois.
The Interstate Commerce clause is much the same, in
that it is a restriction on legislatures enacting statutes that
impede commerce between the States. Regulations that are effective
only within that state are not precluded by the Interstate Commerce
Clause.
The only way to carry in all the states in which you
plan to ride would be to get permitted in each. I would start by
contacting the state police for each state and finding out if licenses
are available, and who issues them. After that, you can start on
the paperwork. Good luck.
If you have any questions you would like to ask the
lawyer, please submit them to: ASK OUR LAWYER, P.O. Box 2850, Indianapolis,
Indiana 46206-2850, or email to mabeason@iquest.net.
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